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Mar 27, 10:42 PM
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Okay I just re-watched episode 5. It was revealed the start of Ymir where she got the titan power

The question I have concern is that.

  • How the hell not all subjects of Ymir is not a royal blood??


The past did indirectly show that the King fk her. King is royal. How the heck not all subjects of Ymir are Royals when her first children have the blood of the King. The first children got children and this repeat.


  • the Eldian empire, most of the people there 2,000 years ago is just a resident, They all died. Therefore, when Founder Ymir was getting fk by King to give birth. That was the first subjects of ymir. This means they have royal blood.


So why it is only few royals are alive now when all eldians alive in this year 854 literally come from Ymir who got fk by King.


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Mar 27, 10:51 PM
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Bro I just wake up 😭
Mar 27, 10:55 PM
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Akpredator said:
Bro I just wake up 😭

same, and now getting ready for school😭
Mar 27, 11:07 PM
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The reason not all Eldians possess the Royal Blood is due to the historical events and genetic dilution that occurred over time for 2000 years. As the Eldian population grew and intermarried with other groups, the genetic trait that carried the Founding Titan's powers became less concentrated and was eventually limited to the Fritz family and their closest relatives.
Mar 27, 11:39 PM
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The reason not all Eldians possess the Royal Blood is due to the historical events and genetic dilution that occurred over time for 2000 years. As the Eldian population grew and intermarried with other groups, the genetic trait that carried the Founding Titan's powers became less concentrated and was eventually limited to the Fritz family and their closest relatives.
I look that way once but it just hard to accept that way man because if blood get mix and mix and repeat. The root is still there because ymir’s blood is there so they are subjects of ymir that can turn into titans. And if their root is ymir, it is also should be their root comes from the king that is royal.

Well, if we mean royals in aot then I think they are just doing incest and not mixing bloods in other countries so they can keep their high percentage blood from the king.

I do not know science but it is just thinking in the future where your blood will no longer have value on them because they have mixture of some other blood…
Mar 27, 11:54 PM
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Short answer is, no, they don't all have royal blood. Slightly longer answer, we don't know exactly know how the rules around royal blood started, but there are several explanations that make sense. One, it's not really about actual genetics and DNA, it's just a case where people who are relatively closely related to current or recent Eldian royalty are considered to have royal blood by Ymir. So it's about their current status, more than literally their geneology.

Another idea is that the royal bloodline started from whichever of Ymir's children, or potentially more likely grandchildren, properly took the throne. It could also be a case that the actual royal line was rife with inbreeding, so while near the beginning every subject of Ymir had royal blood, it quickly became the case that it "diluted" to not counting within a few generations, except for inside the royal line.

The idea that I personally think makes the most sense is that whichever of Ymir's descendents got the Founding titan started the Royal line. Assuming her powers were split into 3 amongst her daughters, then further split into 9 amongst their children, one of them ended up with the Founding titan, which is clearly different and special compared to the others. It wouldn't surprise me if that child with the Founding titan started the Royal line, passing the titan down in their family and with it creating a special bloodline with a closer bond to Ymir.
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Mar 28, 2:52 AM
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@LateHero_ you are very fixated on the king but i dont think he has much significance in this debate. for example if king fritz had children with another woman, their ancestors would not be able to transform into titans.

so when talking about titan power and royal blood line its more important that theyre ancestors of ymir.

also in season 3 its stated that eldians mixed with other nationalities to further their nations influence. so the point @johan23t made makes total sense to me.

and since you brought up incest, its not unheard of that to keep a royal blood line as „pure“ as possible cousins got married and had children
Mar 28, 1:11 PM
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I think the royal bloodline refers to royal descendants of King Fritz the same as in the real world. And the only special thing is that founder Ymir is a slave to the royal bloodline of king Fritz. Second king of Eldia after king Fritz most likely wasn't even a descendant of Ymir, but would still be considered to have royal blood. Anyways, that's just my two cents. This whole thing is kinda confusing.
Mar 28, 2:55 PM
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Reckless_weeb said:
The reason not all Eldians possess the Royal Blood is due to the historical events and genetic dilution that occurred over time for 2000 years. As the Eldian population grew and intermarried with other groups, the genetic trait that carried the Founding Titan's powers became less concentrated and was eventually limited to the Fritz family and their closest relatives.

So they basically pulled an Hasburg type shi and fked their cousins.
Mar 28, 5:01 PM

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I think the royal bloodline refers to royal descendants of King Fritz the same as in the real world. And the only special thing is that founder Ymir is a slave to the royal bloodline of king Fritz. Second king of Eldia after king Fritz most likely wasn't even a descendant of Ymir, but would still be considered to have royal blood. Anyways, that's just my two cents. This whole thing is kinda confusing.
@Godz57 What are you talking about? Kings relative and their relatives and his descendants on his legal wife alone ARE NOT SUBJECTS OF YMIR

We are talking Royal Blood in Subjects of Ymir. Why would you go to the other side of Bloodline of Royals.
Subjects of Ymir royal family tree started with Ymir and King, the birth of Subjects of Ymir.

Of course, King and his other family is royals but they are not titans; only have royal bloods.

Godz57 said:
Second king of Eldia after king Fritz most likely wasn't even a descendant of Ymir, but would still be considered to have royal blood.


I think you need to understand we are talking about Subjects of Ymir. Even if the next king was Royal, even He was the son of the King’s Legal wife. They are not in the family of titan. Do you really think Founding titan powers activate when make contact with A royal who is Not even a subjects of Ymir? The key needed is a royal blood who is subjects of Ymir, not a royal blood on the other side of bloodline.
Subjects of Ymir started with Ymir x King. That started the titan family.
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Bro woke up and chose to speak facts
Mar 29, 1:47 AM
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LateHero_ said:
@Godz57 What are you talking about? Kings relative and their relatives and his descendants on his legal wife alone ARE NOT SUBJECTS OF YMIR

We are talking Royal Blood in Subjects of Ymir. Why would you go to the other side of Bloodline of Royals.
Subjects of Ymir royal family tree started with Ymir and King, the birth of Subjects of Ymir.

Of course, King and his other family is royals but they are not titans; only have royal bloods.

Godz57 said:
Second king of Eldia after king Fritz most likely wasn't even a descendant of Ymir, but would still be considered to have royal blood.


I think you need to understand we are talking about Subjects of Ymir. Even if the next king was Royal, even He was the son of the King’s Legal wife. They are not in the family of titan. Do you really think Founding titan powers activate when make contact with A royal who is Not even a subjects of Ymir? The key needed is a royal blood who is subjects of Ymir, not a royal blood on the other side of bloodline.
Subjects of Ymir started with Ymir x King. That started the titan family.

If that would be the case then every Eldian would have royal blood as everyone who can turn into a titan in the series is a descendant of king Fritz and Ymir. Maybe to be considered to have royal blood you both have to be a royal descendant of king Fritz and of founder Ymir.
What I think the royal blood represents is founder Ymir being enslaved. The same way how Ymir was a slave of king Fritz even after she had the power to disobey him. Of course I may be wrong about this.
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Reckless_weeb said:
The reason not all Eldians possess the Royal Blood is due to the historical events and genetic dilution that occurred over time for 2000 years. As the Eldian population grew and intermarried with other groups, the genetic trait that carried the Founding Titan's powers became less concentrated and was eventually limited to the Fritz family and their closest relatives.

So they basically pulled an Hasburg type shi and fked their cousins.

Incest isn't anything uncommon, even long ago our ancestors had a lot of them. That's why we're here today 😅
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Reckless_weeb said:
AnimeQira said:

So they basically pulled an Hasburg type shi and fked their cousins.

Incest isn't anything uncommon, even long ago our ancestors had a lot of them. That's why we're here today 😅

Didn’t say it was uncommon, I was just paraphrasing (in a more vulgar way) what was the other guy implying
Mar 29, 5:48 AM
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The royal bloodline has nothing to do with being able to turn into a titan. Ymir was a slave to all kings of Eldia starting from the first - king Fritz. Who by the way could not transform into a titan. Now when a member of the royal family also has the powers of the founding titan, then he can use it's full power.

And Eren set Ymir free from this slavery when Ymir did not obey a royal descendant of king Fritz - Zeke.

The only logical way we can interpret the royal bloodline is symbolic as there is almost 0% chance of inheriting any DNA from a specific person from 2000 years ago. The only exceptions would be mitochondrial-DNA (maternal only) which wouldn't work as the royal family is through the paternal line and the other would be by Y-DNA (paternal only) which would almost work except that Zeke is royalty through his mother's side. So the only way it could work is symbolically the same way we treat for example the royal family of UK. Of course there can be some made up fantasy world logic in play which would invalidate everything I said.
Mar 29, 6:17 AM

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Godz57 said:
The royal bloodline has nothing to do with being able to turn into a titan. Ymir was a slave to all kings of Eldia starting from the first - king Fritz. Who by the way could not transform into a titan. Now when a member of the royal family also has the powers of the founding titan, then he can use it's full power.

And Eren set Ymir free from this slavery when Ymir did not obey a royal descendant of king Fritz - Zeke.

The only logical way we can interpret the royal bloodline is symbolic as there is almost 0% chance of inheriting any DNA from a specific person from 2000 years ago. The only exceptions would be mitochondrial-DNA (maternal only) which wouldn't work as the royal family is through the paternal line and the other would be by Y-DNA (paternal only) which would almost work except that Zeke is royalty through his mother's side. So the only way it could work is symbolically the same way we treat for example the royal family of UK. Of course there can be some made up fantasy world logic in play which would invalidate everything I said.

by that you are denying the information given “All eldians are demons because they can transform into titans if given with spinal fluid.” You can’t transform into titan just because you are an eldian. You have to be subjects of Ymir. Which is rooted in the family tree.
Mar 29, 6:21 AM

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The royal bloodline has nothing to do with being able to turn into a titan. Ymir was a slave to all kings of Eldia starting from the first - king Fritz. Who by the way could not transform into a titan. Now when a member of the royal family also has the powers of the founding titan, then he can use it's full power.

And Eren set Ymir free from this slavery when Ymir did not obey a royal descendant of king Fritz - Zeke.

The only logical way we can interpret the royal bloodline is symbolic as there is almost 0% chance of inheriting any DNA from a specific person from 2000 years ago. The only exceptions would be mitochondrial-DNA (maternal only) which wouldn't work as the royal family is through the paternal line and the other would be by Y-DNA (paternal only) which would almost work except that Zeke is royalty through his mother's side. So the only way it could work is symbolically the same way we treat for example the royal family of UK. Of course there can be some made up fantasy world logic in play which would invalidate everything I said.
@Godz57 Eldian Empire is just a place but Subjects of Ymir is a family. Only them can transform into titans. Outside of the family cannot transform even if they belong to Eldian Empire. That’s why the start of Series Year 845, All eldians alive belongs to the family tree of Ymir and the King.They are being used pure titans by Marleyans. So if it was just symbolic outside the family tree of Ymir and King. They can’t tap founding titan powers.
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The royal bloodline has nothing to do with being able to turn into a titan. Ymir was a slave to all kings of Eldia starting from the first - king Fritz. Who by the way could not transform into a titan. Now when a member of the royal family also has the powers of the founding titan, then he can use it's full power.

And Eren set Ymir free from this slavery when Ymir did not obey a royal descendant of king Fritz - Zeke.

The only logical way we can interpret the royal bloodline is symbolic as there is almost 0% chance of inheriting any DNA from a specific person from 2000 years ago. The only exceptions would be mitochondrial-DNA (maternal only) which wouldn't work as the royal family is through the paternal line and the other would be by Y-DNA (paternal only) which would almost work except that Zeke is royalty through his mother's side. So the only way it could work is symbolically the same way we treat for example the royal family of UK. Of course there can be some made up fantasy world logic in play which would invalidate everything I said.
@Godz57 Eldian Empire is just a place but Subjects of Ymir is a family. Only them can transform into titans. Outside of the family cannot transform even if they belong to Eldian Empire.

If you are royal, you have to be inside the family tree first to tap the memories of other subjects of ymir or use founding titan powers
Mar 29, 6:32 AM
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Yes, these are two different things:
1. All descendant's of Ymir are subjects of Ymir and can transform into pure titans.
2. Only royal descendant's of king Fritz are royalty (have "royal blood") and Ymir is a slave to this royal bloodline (probably because she loved king Fritz).
Godz57Mar 29, 12:09 PM

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