okay how do I actually start a new save? All saves seems to share the same progress so even if I backtrack, I cant track which quests I've finished and not
The optimist in me has always wanted to believe that Chinami won't die, like maybe Tsubasa uses some of her infinite wealth to commission a miracle cure or something, but as the story goes on, the thought creeps in more and more that Sel is exactly the type of author to kill her off in the end.
this implies that terminal 17 would also have completed its purpose and is thus gone, but halftone walks through it as a shortcut in episcopalis II. this disproves that terminals 1 - 21 are gone so this falls flat. in addition, terminal 84 is used to complete sonny boy. so we have access to a terminal far ahead of us if the terminals are "world loops". which is strange but sonny boy is strange too.
nozomu is also actively talked about in kyoto as well as flashbacks of sekai loving sensei not nozomu. mother may i also mentions how nozomu beats sekai and sensei was better i believe (or its good boy)
so calling akira nozomu seems foolish even if it is 'terminal 22 and not 23'
in reference to ima's "your physical presence establishes connections to the outer world", nodoka explains that sensei's body remains but his mind wanders in Mille Crepe, so quite literally his mind slips into outer spaces but his body can remain where it is meant to be. he is special in this regard. not even futaba can do that, and she slipped into an outer world in symp II
'remember how gods are waiting for hima to be born'
no i dont.
'sorry for spoiling good ending' shut the fuck up you cocky bitch
'terminal 23 is a therapy session...'
in Hand of God yasu mentions how sensei used to pray and when he was granted what he wanted he wanted to turn back, he was ungrateful of what he prayed for and blah blah. so i guess maybe, just not in the way this person is writing it out to be. lessons in love is made for the sole purpose of saving the world, so i dont think LiL is a therapy session for sensei.
'forced to live with ami' well ok he loves ami but sure
all the main girls are underage cuz they're in highschool boingus.
'baby coming in the real world'
the MM series of poems is about ami being born and sensei having to deal with jealousy and desire to be the child's dad
i wonder if she'll like me
terminal 4 is a BACKUP
noriko also says that one of the boxes has ami's name on it in Action/Inaction so to neglect that one of the boxes is about ami is strange
'now that we have all the pieces' no the fuck you dont
'nozomu's older brother rapes him' we have no evidence [older bro] even liked sensei at all, or even wanted to hate fuck him. [old bro] NTR'd sensei i guess but thats a different thing.
'sexually suppresses using religion' where did you prove that
'real sana is his true love'
the sana we see in TNR is one we see on ami's birthday, 2030. 10 years after LiL takes place. you could wrench this in via 'time travel and calendars being unimportant when time loops exist' however TNR feels more like a what if ami keeps sensei locked away more than "the real world".
second sun starts with abortion? no, second sun starts with a child that has harlequin ichthyosis. the baby's skin is thickened and cracks
the hanging rope literally has maya inside it and you think it has anything to do with sana?
ugh fuck i dont think im even a third done fuck this
Stop rolling back after making them. Every variable state is remembered per text of dialogue that you can roll back to. If you make 100 edits and then roll back to the frame where you made them you irreparably lose all 100 changes. Same thing happens with looking at phone messages except those work outside the normal rollback system so you wouldn't even notice as you roll back to the frame where you checked the photos.
You're gonna have to walk me through how you edit a variable. For a boolean, you have to open the variable up, then change the value from true to false or vice versa, then press change, then make sure you don't roll back.
I mean she has special eyes after all so perhaps it's just that her eyes dont allow her to see Maya. Or it's just Sekai doing something. Or am just overthinking this way to far. It's just something i've been wondering.
No there's something about this that's true. I believe the reset rooftop discussion with Nyaori brings up Nao's eyes and how one of those eyes are of something that's impossbile / something that does not exist
You're gonna have to walk me through how you edit a variable. For a boolean, you have to open the variable up, then change the value from true to false or vice versa, then press change, then make sure you don't roll back.
So, I just press alt+m to open the thing, click on the number value, change it, click the change button to confirm and then a few seconds later not closing the overlay the number changes back
Precisely why I didn't even bother responding. I've dealt with plenty of their type before. Doesn't matter how much effort you put in to point out the inconsistencies, won't ever acknowledge the flaws in their logic.
Beyond delusional that they think their theories are undeniable truth and they seem to think they know the story better than Selebus himself.
For example "you did it" isn't some overly complicated secret trying to point at Sensei killing some unborn child that we may or may not even know the true identity of. It just simply represents Sekai, and Akira's self-blame for her death. It's shown in game multiple times how much her death affected him to the point it took him countless resets to be able to even acknowledge openly that it even happened. He believed it was his fault because he didn't run away with her when she asked him to, he felt he betrayed her. It's implied she died soon after that, presumably not able to cope with being in a loveless marriage anymore and killed herself and took Nozomu out with her, potentially even saving Akira from further abuse from his brother.
Sekai is the most direct and obvious option for the meaning behind the name "you did it"
It's a secret that is slowly revealed to us from the beginning, making us constantly wonder what it means and what could Akira have done to make him manifest a being whose whole existence is to exert blame on himself? Did he rape someone, murder someone? Our imaginations began seeking out the worst possible explanations, only to end up being something that he didn't even mean to happen intentionally. He blames himself, because all he had to do was take her hand and leave with her, but he was a coward.
And those are the kinds of mistakes that truly break us and make us curse fate and all of its cruelty.
It's excellent storytelling.
A lot of the parallels being pointed out in the OG post are meaningless. It's feels like that person would go outside and when noticing that the sky is blue, they would say something like:
"You know what else is blue? AYANE'S EYES. AYANE DIED AND CREATED THE SKY BECAUSE SHE LOVED AKIRA AND WANTED HIM TO REMEMBER HER. BOOM YOU'RE WELCOME SELEBUS."
Yep that's why I'm sticking with the stomachache skip route personally on my main save. I wanna give her this moment of feeling safe, and will hold out hope we can make it last. Even though I know I may end up regretting it since so many forces (including Akira himself) seem hell-bent on making sure that no happy ending will happen at this point.
This post details my thoughts on that scene in particular, I won't rehash them all here
At this point in the discussions people ended up saying the pattern that's held up through the game, that sometimes you need to break something to make it stronger again. I even compared the red path dialogue to a happy event or something, reading out of character for the game.
Once you make it to her next events I can give you a bigger example. Right now it's just "see how much her green path dialogue vibes with the rest of the game."
She definitely won't be dom at first, but I think when she realises how weak Akira is she'll start poking him a bit more, maybe transitioning into a dom role after a short amount of time.
okay, now I understand. Indeed, it seems that the game will check for flag "persistent.lesson1" in the middle of "backwards dancing". I didn't even know Selebus invested time into doing this.
Well, ironically, I recommend that you follow both the guide mod, and puzzle guide, as following them will protect you from this idiocy. URM will also alert you for these kinds of things being called and enable you to bypass them yourself. But I'm glad you managed to solve the issue nonetheless.
I'm gonna be honest this sort of shit is so fucking annoying, IDK why Sel has such a hate boner for people looking to cut through the game but it's pathetic.
Oh nooooo someone is asking "obvious" questions in the discord cause they didn't readdd.
Who cares, point em to a guide and be done with it, it's way easier than doing whatever the fuck he's done here just to snipe people.
Not to mention this will catch people who are using a guide for subsequent playthroughs, something there's actually a decent reason to do with this game, seeing how things change over time depending on your choices.
(Stomache, bad homie, bad uncle, nude sharing, watching Abyss before the onsen, so on so forth).
I just don't get it, so much policing to enforce an "intended" experience, just let people enjoy your game you fucking cretin.
At this point in the discussions people ended up saying the pattern that's held up through the game, that sometimes you need to break something to make it stronger again. I even compared the red path dialogue to a happy event or something, reading out of character for the game.
Once you make it to her next events I can give you a bigger example. Right now it's just "see how much her green path dialogue vibes with the rest of the game."
Honestly this is really dissapointing to me, almost like it's rewarding you for being reprehensible at every possible chance.
Personally I think it'd be nicer if the game wasn't completely hellbent on making excuses for doing bad things and actually smacked you for it from time to time.
I think the worst thing that can happen is shutting Rin off for ages by being a bad homie, which is comparably a drop in the bucket.
But no, it's a good thing you took advantage of a girls PTSD trip and she loves you so so much and it was eye opening experience for her in some way.
Idk man, think it'd be better if she lost a lot of interest in Akira for this; afterall -- it was pathetic of him.
since I still can't figure out what's going on with my changes made with URM are being undone, I'm currently convinced that he's implemented a check to see if certain values are altered in some way and undoes it. That feels somewhat unlikely but I wouldn't put it past him.
also am I crazy or is the game taking way longer to launch after each update? I'm now questioning if that is also on purpose just to fuck with people
since I still can't figure out what's going on with my changes made with URM are being undone, I'm currently convinced that he's implemented a check to see if certain values are altered in some way and undoes it. That feels somewhat unlikely but I wouldn't put it past him.
also am I crazy or is the game taking way longer to launch after each update? I'm now questioning if that is also on purpose just to fuck with people
Doubt it, I figure someone would have noticed by now if that were the case. Might just be something wrong with permissions or the install.
Also yes, the game will take longer to launch with every update because it just keeps getting even more massive (12+ GB already and will keep increasing) and Renpy seems to struggle to load everything at once.
The last part of what you said is my worry. Wait until their events in 0.47 and compare both dialogue choices. If you compare red vs. green, it's like seeing someone confronting reality or accepting to live in a delusion that will one day crumble. In both she knows he's broken, but in one she knows who he really is (see also the next quote), and in the other it's like she built a fantasy that she's the one he won't rape. They feel like they end at the same point, but it's only an illusion.
But no, it's a good thing you took advantage of a girls PTSD trip and she loves you so so much and it was eye opening experience for her in some way.
Idk man, think it'd be better if she lost a lot of interest in Akira for this; afterall -- it was pathetic of him.
It's not that she loves you. As you said, he's pathetic, which is why she's kinda latching to him, since all the sex she knows is exploitative and hurtful, him being pathetic is a new experience related to sex that she hasn't known. A bit like Stockholm, maybe?
Yeah I remember when I originally found the game middle of 2023, first VN and all that, the second I realized what I did on my first run I deleted that save, but I've kept the same one ever since I redid the run.
I'm kinda curious about doing a playthrough where you avoid as much content as you can.. like get all the red events. I'm curious about how much unique dialogue there is for that if any.
I'm kinda curious about doing a playthrough where you avoid as much content as you can.. like get all the red events. I'm curious about how much unique dialogue there is for that if any.
Basically the run where you try to be a good person but you're not allowed.
There's a decent chunk of diff dialogue, especially with Ami, in which many events are pretty heavily changed.