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The result was keep‎. Per meeting WP:GNG - multiple paths to notability. Tawker (talk) 22:35, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Tortured Poets Department (song)

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Aside from brief mentions within links that give chart placements, this appears to rely entirely on album reviews, which is not a good sign as those are not on their own to warrant song articles per WP:NSONGS. This specifically states "Coverage of a song in the context of an album review does not establish notability. If the only coverage of a song occurs in the context of reviews of the album on which it appears, that material should be contained in the album article and an independent article about the song should not be created." With that said, we would need better links than what currently is used, and I don't believe sufficient coverage from credible secondary sources independent of album reviews is anywhere be found. Artist/label/producer/songwriter commentary wouldn't compensate for this when those are simply self-promotion. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 23:14, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Album reviews singling out specific tracks is moot when they don't count towards song notability, though thankfully neither of links you gave are that and actually are centered on the title track itself, which is ideal. Something that admittedly gives me pause with them is how they partially consist of speculation on lyrics while other parts seem to go into tangential details on people mentioned by name. I guess it comes down to whether this central focus is a sufficient basis when taking out any gossipy or irrelevant bits. Either way, I'm glad they're not loaded entirely with such things. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 04:50, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • To say any song by a particular artist is "probably inherently notable" would be a stretch, and you appear to have overlooked how I said the parts that did contain gossip/irrelevant bits gave me pause, leaving me not fully certain how much merit they have when only focusing on the parts that are not. If you believe the good bits are enough, then that's understandable. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 21:47, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Clearly meets the notability guidelines- I however agree with Ippantekina, it may not meet NSONG. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Cooldudeseven7 join in on the tea talk 17:50, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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